You should need a mechanical engineering qualification to fell trees. I used to own a farm and tree felling is by far the most dangerous activity. None of these current rules and regs are a safe substitute for knowing basic mechanics.
so sorry.sad
I have work a few years in this field and the amount of out and out mentally unstable guys I've came across is amazing they just don't see or care there fucking mad some of them .
Why did he not cut the root ball off first and/or put a block between the tree an the rock face to stop it from kicking back, There should have been much more thought an consideration to cut this type of tree, An he should have realized this could happen an made the cut on the left side of himself an the tree would never have hit him. Or tied the root ball up with cables an winch to hold it before cutting, an made sure he still cut on his left side, It is easy to see the problems after the fact, Very unfortunate this happened.
Look, I have dropped a thousand trees over 40 meters. Many I dropped while barefoot. I have never used any safety gear of any kind, period. Safety gear can't help you if you're stupid. I climb trees and I cut them down, and it's dangerous, dangerous work. If you can't handle it, go home. Sell your saw and get your ass back on the couch.
Horrible way to die, allways allways visualize your job and your surroundings before starting a job,,,
This is sad. My friends Grandpa died by being pinched. They couldn't get him out but he was alive and conscious. He laid there crushed and had someone write out a will for him and said his goodbyes to his team. Then they removed the tree and he immediately bled to death right there in front of his sobbing and grimacing team. He was a good man and this tragedy is something that deserves our thanks and thought, not endless "bucking" puns.
Sounds more like the company thought it was TOO expensive to send a helicopter in on that one job…
As a previous climber the solution I'd come to would be 2 opposing vertical cuts space several feet apart but would be done while hanging from above the tree. A winch would then break the tree by splitting. I'm not sure if a helicopter could lift that tree. It was probably wedged and immobile.
It's hard to imagine a riskier situation.
How much wood would a woodcuck wood if a woodchuck would chuck wood.
Does this person (the woman) saw cut trees?
My uncle is a lumberjack. Sliced his leg in half a with chain saw.
this is why you need to understand physics
Damn, physics is a bitch!
He should have known better. I know I would have. Am sorry for his family. But it's about consents also.
A worker with an explosive handler license (not sure what those are called in Canada) could use charges like combat engineers use for route clearance to safely destroy dangerous trees from a distance.
People fear explosives too much and trees too little.
note the moss- this was old growth and the helicopter shows they were logging a mountainside which causes mudslides later. Buh bye stupid.
Faller is a nice name for the evil people who cut our precious trees.
"this accident could have been prevented"…really? Every single accident ever could have been prevented
"Gravity, a constant hazard when falling…" … Ummm… DUHHHHH, that's why we call it Rapid Deceleration Syndrome, that sudden stop at the end is what gets ya!
wrong end
I feel bad for Barb having to investigate all these
no escape route would be all I need to not cut a tree
BC forests are full of hidden surprises that can kill you instantly, and the only thing that keeps you safe is your training. Accidents happen because of a shift from situational awareness to complacency. Work with safety in mind because BC doctors rule over our disability courts, and some of them falsify medical reports for insurers!
Just use dynamite on all trees, even the fallen one. Eliminates all risk.
Where did she come from?
How does a chick that's never cut anything get on a crew evaluating cutters?
Do we know if the buckers intention was for the piece that pinned him to either stay still or roll the other direction or go straight up. I wonder what made him so sure it would not fall back and pin him like it did?Sad that no one else said "wait a minute here what if"
Well done. May your report save others and keep this sad loss of life from happening again.
if he would of stood two feet to the right when making the cut and extending his arms out as far as possible to the left, he would of been safe.
Helicopter available but wasn't used .Why ? .Too much of a man to use a helicopter Way more macho to go in boots and all and cut away and die .Who's to blame for this ? Was it a penny pinching boss who wouldn't get a helicopter and I presume you would find the boss risking life and limb . To me it stinks of a penny pinching boss . His team should tell him to fuck off .
Absolute shame in the loss of life of a hard working person. My prayers and thoughts go to the family of the faller. It is a stark reminder of just how deadly trees can be and why fallers get decent money to remove trees and limbs. Thank you for posting this. I will send this along to a friend of mine who removes trees.
Got here by accident and learned a thing or 2
Hindsight is a great thing. I notice she suggested a helicopter could have been used. I can imagine the boss agreeing to pay for and use a helicopter.
Listen as monotone Melissa explains how a guy horribly loses his life as though she were giving instructions on folding a sheet.
I remember a felling job many years ago that I walked away from. It was way above my experience level. Later, I heard a man was hurt badly trying to do what I could not. . There are many things that can go wrong quickly with a saw in your hands. Noisy and rough, it is very skilled work.
thanks for sharing.. Situations and forces are always different.. Training can only get you to think and understand. Please help us to evaluate and forsee the present danger, amen RIP
You should need a mechanical engineering qualification to fell trees. I used to own a farm and tree felling is by far the most dangerous activity. None of these current rules and regs are a safe substitute for knowing basic mechanics.
so sorry.sad
I have work a few years in this field and the amount of out and out mentally unstable guys I've came across is amazing they just don't see or care there fucking mad some of them .
Why did he not cut the root ball off first and/or put a block between the tree an the rock face to stop it from kicking back, There should have been much more thought an consideration to cut this type of tree,
An he should have realized this could happen an made the cut on the left side of himself an the tree would never have hit him.
Or tied the root ball up with cables an winch to hold it before cutting, an made sure he still cut on his left side, It is easy to see the problems after the fact, Very unfortunate this happened.
Look, I have dropped a thousand trees over 40 meters. Many I dropped while barefoot. I have never used any safety gear of any kind, period. Safety gear can't help you if you're stupid. I climb trees and I cut them down, and it's dangerous, dangerous work. If you can't handle it, go home. Sell your saw and get your ass back on the couch.
Horrible way to die, allways allways visualize your job and your surroundings before starting a job,,,
This is sad. My friends Grandpa died by being pinched. They couldn't get him out but he was alive and conscious. He laid there crushed and had someone write out a will for him and said his goodbyes to his team. Then they removed the tree and he immediately bled to death right there in front of his sobbing and grimacing team. He was a good man and this tragedy is something that deserves our thanks and thought, not endless "bucking" puns.
Sounds more like the company thought it was TOO expensive to send a helicopter in on that one job…
As a previous climber the solution I'd come to would be 2 opposing vertical cuts space several feet apart but would be done while hanging from above the tree. A winch would then break the tree by splitting. I'm not sure if a helicopter could lift that tree. It was probably wedged and immobile.
It's hard to imagine a riskier situation.
How much wood would a woodcuck wood if a woodchuck would chuck wood.
Does this person (the woman) saw cut trees?
My uncle is a lumberjack. Sliced his leg in half a with chain saw.
this is why you need to understand physics
Damn, physics is a bitch!
He should have known better. I know I would have.
Am sorry for his family.
But it's about consents also.
A worker with an explosive handler license (not sure what those are called in Canada) could use charges like combat engineers use for route clearance to safely destroy dangerous trees from a distance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwkANANLklg
People fear explosives too much and trees too little.
note the moss- this was old growth and the helicopter shows they were logging a mountainside which causes mudslides later. Buh bye stupid.
Faller is a nice name for the evil people who cut our precious trees.
"this accident could have been prevented"…really? Every single accident ever could have been prevented
"Gravity, a constant hazard when falling…" … Ummm… DUHHHHH, that's why we call it Rapid Deceleration Syndrome, that sudden stop at the end is what gets ya!
wrong end
I feel bad for Barb having to investigate all these
no escape route would be all I need to not cut a tree
BC forests are full of hidden surprises that can kill you instantly, and the only thing that keeps you safe is your training. Accidents happen because of a shift from situational awareness to complacency. Work with safety in mind because BC doctors rule over our disability courts, and some of them falsify medical reports for insurers!
Just use dynamite on all trees, even the fallen one. Eliminates all risk.
Where did she come from?
How does a chick that's never cut anything get on a crew evaluating cutters?
Do we know if the buckers intention was for the piece that pinned him to either stay still or roll the other direction or go straight up. I wonder what made him so sure it would not fall back and pin him like it did?Sad that no one else said "wait a minute here what if"
Well done. May your report save others and keep this sad loss of life from happening again.
if he would of stood two feet to the right when making the cut and extending his arms out as far as possible to the left, he would of been safe.
Helicopter available but wasn't used .Why ? .Too much of a man to use a helicopter Way more macho to go in boots and all and cut away and die .Who's to blame for this ? Was it a penny pinching boss who wouldn't get a helicopter and I presume you would find the boss risking life and limb . To me it stinks of a penny pinching boss . His team should tell him to fuck off .
Absolute shame in the loss of life of a hard working person. My prayers and thoughts go to the family of the faller. It is a stark reminder of just how deadly trees can be and why fallers get decent money to remove trees and limbs. Thank you for posting this. I will send this along to a friend of mine who removes trees.
Got here by accident and learned a thing or 2
Hindsight is a great thing. I notice she suggested a helicopter could have been used. I can imagine the boss agreeing to pay for and use a helicopter.
Listen as monotone Melissa explains how a guy horribly loses his life as though she were giving instructions on folding a sheet.
I remember a felling job many years ago that I walked away from. It was way above my experience level. Later, I heard a man was hurt badly trying to do what I could not. . There are many things that can go wrong quickly with a saw in your hands. Noisy and rough, it is very skilled work.
thanks for sharing.. Situations and forces are always different.. Training can only get you to think and understand. Please help us to evaluate and forsee the present danger, amen RIP