http://www.ted.com Empathy, cooperation, fairness and reciprocity — caring about the well-being of others seems like a very human trait. But Frans de Waal shares some surprising videos of behavioral tests, on primates and other mammals, that show how many of these moral traits all of us share.
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When life gives you lemons, throw them out of your cage!
Most humans need to take a class.
You can clearly see the astonishment on the right monkeys face after he received the grape.
makes you wonder what really makes us human huh
Caring about the welfare of someone else is not morality. This behaviour exists amongst smart animals (and humans) as a way to gain long term benefits and become accepted in social groups. Empathy is also about this. Of course we don't realize it because it's subconcious. Morality doesn't exist, it's a made up concept.
Animals have feelings and thoughts, but morality is a made up concept by humans that help us function better in a society. It doesn't exist anywhere else in nature. Of course animals are capable of "noble" and "good" acts, like saving another animal or even human, and sometimes they seem like they act based on moral values, but their actions are actually driven by what I call "nature's logic". Like, a tiger that's not very hungry can spare the life of a baby calf, and play with it or set it free instead of killing it. This act SEEMS moral to the unexperienced (and may I add naive) person, but in reality if you dig deeper you'll realize that the tiger acted like this because in nature's perspective the calf had more value alive than dead. Since the tiger had eaten recently, killing the calf would be a waste of resourses and mother nature doesn't like that. This calf will be much more useful as food for a hungry animal or, even better, reaching maturity and reproducing to bring forth many more of its kind. That's why the tiger doesn't kill it, and NOT because "it felt sorry for it" or "it had morals". Now, human morality basically functions in a similar manner, but it seems much "truer" because humans have much more complex social relationships. Think about it this way: does morality exist in a vaccum? Meaning,would one person, alone in the world have the need or even the capability of acting morally? No. Without a social group, morality is meaningless. We're not moral because we're "good people" we're moral because society taught us that in order thatin order to survive we need to be accepted by others, and to be accepted we have to act by certain rules. To not steal, kill or beat up another person is because these behaviours, if they were allowed, would soon break up the very core of society. In a way, morality in humans is just as purpose-driven as in animals. No one acts morally without having to gain something. Even if it's just the satisfaction that "I am a moral person, and therefore I am a valuable member of society", it's enough. Also, no human has the capacity of acting in a moral way without being taught what morality is, what "right" and "wrong" are and how to act a certain way. And let's not forget that morality is not stable, but changes thoughout history, but also according to each social group (country/tribe etc).
No matter how much we human try to make animals act like human and think like human we will always fail. It's only human that has developed such sense of understanding and it has been given to us from supernatural being. We will never be able to do that except making them do things like these which is of no use as they incapable to teach or pass such knowledge to their offspring. All such efforts are wasted when trained animal dies.
shoutout frans ! enjoyed this talk I may not agree with him 100% but very insightful stuff
Nicely exposed and very solid experiment in my opinion !
Thx a lot !
No need to worry..That proves nothing but god is everywhere and all around us😁
This video must be used as an educational one for those who keep uttering – "mOrAlItY cOmEs fRoM rElIgIoN" and "tAkE aWaY ReLiGiOn aNd sEe , wHoLe hUmAnItY wiLL cRuMbLe"
This is not a real scientific research.
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did no one see the wolf picture that had credit to a furry or was it just me
If anything it proves just how complicated God really is.
Nederlanders willen altijd Nederlands klinken wanneer ze Engels spreken
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Bonjour Frans de Waal j'ai lu quelques uns de vos livres c'est super ! A chaque fois que je cherche des trucs sur les primates je tombe sur vos livres… J'espère pouvoir faire des études de zoologie plus tard, passez une bonne journée :')
Brilliant!
so what im hearing is that animals are naturally socialists?
So, here's something fun. I watched this TED Talk in my behavioral science class, and I thought "Wow, what useful information!" and didn't think further than that. Later on, for my astronomy class, it came time for me to choose a scientific book to do a report on for that class. I chose Mama's Last Hug, not knowing that the author of that book was the guy in this video.
The dislikes are from the Vatican, the sole self-proclaimed arbiters of morality. Big Religion hijacks the moral discourse to support the idea of human exceptionalism. It's fake news.
They caught the guy at 13:43 lacking heavy
s/o Harro Maas
13:48
Give that monkey a grape dammit!!!