In this video I analyze who would win between Damian Wayne and Tim Drake, using feats and scaling from the main DC Comic universe.
#robin is the alias of several superheroes appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics. The character was originally created by Bob Kane, Bill Finger, and Jerry Robinson, to serve as a junior counterpart and the sidekick to the superhero Batman. As a team, Batman and Robin have commonly been referred to as the Caped Crusaders and the Dynamic Duo.[1] The character’s first incarnation, Dick Grayson, debuted in Detective Comics # 38 (April 1940). Conceived as a way to attract young readership, Robin garnered overwhelmingly positive critical reception, doubling the sales of the #batman titles.[2] Robin’s early adventures included Star Spangled Comics # 65–130 (1947–1952), the character’s first solo feature. He made regular appearances in Batman-related comic books and other DC Comics publications from 1940 through the early 1980s, until the character set aside the Robin identity and became the independent superhero Nightwing.
The character’s second incarnation, Jason Todd, first appeared in Batman # 357 (1983). He made regular appearances in Batman-related comic books until 1988, when he was murdered by the Joker in the storyline “A Death in the Family” (1989). Jason later found himself alive after a reality-changing incident, eventually becoming the Red Hood. The premiere Robin limited series was published in 1991, featuring the character’s third incarnation, Tim Drake, training to earn the role of Batman’s vigilante partner. After two successful sequels, the monthly Robin series began in 1993 and ended in early 2009, which also helped his transition from sidekick to a superhero in his own right. In 2004 storylines, established DC Comics character Stephanie Brown became the fourth Robin for a short time before the role reverted to Tim Drake. Damian Wayne succeeds Drake as Robin in the 2009 story arc “Battle for the Cowl.”
The current and former Robins always feature prominently in Batman’s cast of supporting heroes; Dick, Jason, Tim, and Damian all regard him as a father. In current continuity as of 2021, Dick Grayson serves as Nightwing, Jason Todd is the Red Hood, Stephanie Brown is Batgirl, and Tim Drake has picked up the mantle of Robin again after a stint as Red Robin. Damian has left behind the title Robin, but remains the title character of the Robin comic book. In recent years, Batman has also adopted new sidekicks in the form of Bluebird, whose name references Robin, and The Signal.
Damian Wayne is the only son of Bruce Wayne and Talia al Ghul, and the only grandson of Ra’s al Ghul. The character was created by Mike W. Barr, and first appeared in Batman: Son of the Demon (1987).
Due to Damian spending his gestation in a laboratory, he was raised by his mother, Talia, until he was 10, at which point she left him in the care of his father, Bruce, who had not been aware of his son’s existence until that point in time. Damian is violent and self-important, and was trained by the League of Assassins, learning to kill at a young age. After the events of Batman R.I.P. and Batman: Battle for the Cowl, Damian has taken up the identity of Robin, becoming the fifth and current person to use the Boy Wonder’s identity. He worked with Dick Grayson; who replaced Bruce as Batman. Morrison’s Batman # 666 (2007) depicts a future wherein Damian has become Batman. In Batman Incorporated # 8, Damian is killed by his clone, The Heretic, but he is soon resurrected with temporary super-powers.
Timothy Jackson “Tim” Drake is a superhero appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics, commonly in association with the superhero Batman. Created by Marv Wolfman and Pat Broderick, he first appeared in Batman # 436 (August 1989) as the third character to assume the role of Batman’s crime-fighting partner and sidekick Robin. Following the events of Batman: Battle for the Cowl in 2009, Drake adopted the identity of Red Robin. In 2019, Tim returned to his original Robin persona and had a brief stint in which he used the mononym “Drake”.
As a young boy, Tim was in the audience the night Dick Grayson’s parents were murdered and later managed to discover the identities of Batman and the original Robin through their exploits. After the death of the second Robin, Jason Todd, and witnessing Batman spiral into darkness, Tim attempted to convince Dick to resume the role of Robin, stating that “Batman needs a Robin”. However, Dick refused to return to being Batman’s sidekick, and instead, Tim was appointed as the third Robin. Neal Adams redesigned the entire Robin costume specifically for Tim Drake’s character, with the sole exception of the redesigned “R” logo by the late Norm Breyfogle.
In 2021, Tim made his live-action debut starting in the third season of the HBO Max series Titans, portrayed by Jay Lycurgo.
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At their full potential, who will be a better detective? 🔎🦇
Does he ever get taller damm this nigga stay staying the same height 😂
The moment I put Damian above tim was during the new Lazarus island run
When rals said to Damian if you weren’t hurt you could beat me
Blankly saying Damian >rals
And seeing how Tim got washed by rals
It would put him above tim
But without this statement I’d say Tim or they even
I think Jason beating Damian wasn’t just size it was size and skill cause we have seen many many times in dc if you more skilled size doesn’t matter
Who is the 2 batmen?
Love it, Connor is always fun to see. I'd love a Dick vs Bruce matchup.
tim has very consistent inverse scaling over damian
I would love for Tim Drake to get his own tv series or movie someday.
I disagree with time being lesser than all robins with that statement I pretty sure he was referring to his predecessors
Who is the other batman?
Havent watched yet but am predicting Damien Stomps but is stil a bitch.
connor hawke
Despite his current title, Tim Drake is one of the top Robins. He also is more affable in his interaction with other characters. Damian oozes entitlement and lacks humility.
All I'm going to say is reading the comments is funny
Gotta respect Damian for being able to back up his trash talk although he loses that take heart
bruce's robin>dick's robin
Being more skilled doesn't automatically give you a chance of winning fights against a n opponent with less skills for example Batman's more skilled richard dragon, Bronze tiger and lady shiva yet they're all better fighters than him even all 4 robins are more skilled than slade yet he schooled them pretty much in every encounter.
Tim drake fight's smarter so he win mid diff
And Tim is gayer, so even more fierce
I'm really hung up about that page that says Tim, a young adult standing at 5'6", would weigh a mere 125 lbs… For someone of his stature, that's at least 40 lbs underweight. Do the people who write these books not know how to weigh just normal human bodies?
Damian vs Connor reminds me of Teen Titans Robin vs Speedy
I clicked on the video because I read "Red Robin." Not a cheeseburger in sight.
Clickbait. Unfollow. 😤😤😤
Great video as usual! I'd like to see a Batgirl vs battle with all the Batgirls maybe even Batwoman included as well.
Damian Goat Wayne
Does Tom king know that he’s writing for earth zero not one which is a parallel earth.
Spider-Man vs Batman? Both Comics
I literally hate tim drake he is the most boring and uninteresting character in batfamily. he's like boring ass sequel of dick
God I love Damian Wayne. And can’t wait to we get more current scalings for the batfamily. Great video!
I don't condone of Adults fighting children unless it's Red Robin and Damian Wayne
I hated red hood’s design with the nose on his helmet it looked funny
DC really screwing Tim over having him go on boring adventures with Bernard while Damien is out here fighting the best tier 2 fighters on the planet lmao.
Not saying Tim has to have a martial arts focused story but at least something that tests his skills or pushes his character, agenda free
He was being hyped up and set up for so much in the past and it’s all seeming to fizzle now.
But Tim scaling to Jason in terms of skill is interesting. Some people consider Jason a brawler and one of the least skilled while some consider him right under Nightwing and Batman
Barbara didnt even reach tom kings top 10 list shits trash😂
Straight hands it’s Damian at this point. With gadgets it’s Tim
realistically they both destroy pretty much everyone irl even the pro fighters
What about two Aquamen! Because they’re are two of them!
Damn good analysis, though I'm still salty at DC sleeping on my boy Jason 😤
Agreed. Great work. I love your extensive research. Very impressive.
What happened to your Marvel/DC shared cinematic universe What Ifs?
6:26 Didn't Batman started to train since his parents died at 8 in martial arts, acrobatic etcs.?
Tim for the win over Diet Stewie Griffin.
Great upload!
Tim Drake << Damian
Awesome video. I'm glad you made it. Since both Cassandra and Hawke were mentioned it would be pretty cool to see a breakdown of them in this style.
What comic is the panel of two batmen from ?
Nah Tom King is tripping. Tim is no way worse that DUKE THOMAS
I'm pretty sure the Batman who sold his soul, wasn't the original Damian Wayne but his clone, the heretic.
Black Adam vs darksied who you think would win
I like Damian More, the fact he’s able to do all that at such a young age is so badass to me. He talks a lot of shit but is willing to at least try and back it up.
Nightwing VS Deathstroke would be fantastic