What Difference Do Coilovers Actually Make To Ride And Handling?

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1. What I've learend over the years…Wanna look cool, get some lowered springs but keep your standard shocks for comfort. Wanna go track racing, get some coilovers. Don't use coilovers on the public highway unless your back is made of granite. Get your tracking checked 500 miles after making any mods, i.e. once the shocks &/or springs have settled. Bilstein & Koni make the best shocks & Eibach the best springs. Avoid H&R. Standard shocks are ideal for British roads, leave um alone. You do want some lowered springs though, they can firm up the ride & reduce wallow & do some of the shock absorbers work if money is tight (replace the springs and not the shocks and springs). Shocks are expensive, Springs are not. Lowered springs help the wheel fill that wheel arch. Springs set height, Shocks set bounce.

2. @8:30 wala. Using French words wrong, on a German vehicle in Britain. voila!

3. 12:03 😳

4. Hi guys, i've just fitted these to my 330d but have a few questions. How did you torque the strut top nut and Did you fit these straight from the box or did you follow the installation instructions? the reason i ask is because if i set the minimum depth the top spring is fully compressed!

5. Bouncing off the curbs is not helping the lap times.

6. The Pirelli Zero Nero are crap. I had them on my Mustang.

7. Look at the goddamn curb rash 9:45 Holy Shit

8. I notice he didnt put spacers on. Is that normal?

9. Excellent techinical explanation. Thank you.

10. What is a good suspension system over potholes and undulations of roads typically handling them at high speeds ?

11. All the rust spots disappeared after the suspension work

12. Still too much body rolls… need stiffer sway bar

13. Eibach Coilover drinking game, GO!

14. Can’t believe he mentioned wheel spacers!

15. Does installing coilovers allow for fitting a wider rim?

16. This is the massivest cope, as soft springs have more traction.

17. Anybody know if these coilovers are still being produced and are for purchase ?

18. I agree with most of this; however, the spring is to hold the weight and provide movement and to push the tires to the ground, with the goal of keeping the tire contact to the ground consistent. A sock absorber is exactly what its name is and dampens the movement of the vehicle on the spring. Despite the common misconception that stiffer springs are somehow better, softer suspension setup is better at keeping the tires in contact with the ground, so long as there is enough travel. At least that's my take. Despite this, good vid.

19. For anyone that is watching, installing front camber plates to the e46 is an easy and cheap way of getting more lateral grip in the corners as well as making the balance of the car more neutral.

20. I can’t believe this guy was an Eibach representative and gave such an erroneous presentation. If I were his boss this video would either get him fired or demoted and some heavy training. Just for one, get definitions correct. The way you speak matters when you are a paid SPOKESPERSON. He states that the shock controls stored energy. Correct but only half the equation. It really just DAMPENS kinetic energy. If it was truly controlling it, it would have the ability to dampen the springs to retain the desired ride TYPE, not QUALITY. Saying that word is just an industry euphemism is a cop out, for all involved. Yes, we all use misnomers. But some are utterly harmless, while others are just lazy and wrong. The word dampen means to reduce action, whether in rate, overall speed, momentum or impact, and the like. For example, a shock that allows the transfer of fluid or gas from one chamber to another very quickly will result in a soft ride, but great absorption of bumps. Make that hole tiny, the RATE of transfer slows, and it takes more time for the shock and spring combo to compress, AKA the compression aspect of suspension travel. Then, the assembly has to return to the upper position, dictated by car weight, spring rate, movement limiters or “stops”, a geometry of the physical suspension parts. Of note, the word “rate” as used across the industry, really should be the word rating, as it is a weight rating, not a speed of its movement, yet another misnomer. So that downward movement or extension of the assembly is rebound. If that movement is too quick the front end will feel like it’s rising far above resting position before compressing again and finally settling. If that movement is too slow the movement of the assembly will again shock the vehicle with a lack of movement. It’s all about the rate that the shock compresses or rebounds. So the combination of spring rate and shock valving dictates ride control, and the geometry dictates the dynamics of camber, caster, bump steer, changes in toe which unbelievably can occur through the arc
    of suspension travel, and overall travel. But the only true ride “control” would by definition be active control. Magnetorheological shocks use an electric charge to variably energize ferrous particle in the shock fluid which results in variable viscosity and thus actively manipulating the rate of fluid transfer through the orifice which would otherwise dictate a singular rate of movement, with standard shock fluid, or oil, being of one viscosity. Well, until that fluid gets hot, viscosity decreases, and the shock goes soft, and the dampening action is reduced dramatically. To put it all another way, a solid suspension would beat you up, and struggle to keep the tires in constant contact with the road. Soft springs, lots of travel, and no shocks would result in a cushy ride that would likely make you sick as the oscillations of the undampened springs would allow the vehicle to bob up and down so much that the suspension would struggle to keep the tires in contact with the road for the opposite reason. Stored energy, huh? Yeah, that’s all a shock does. Eibach, huh? Gotta question a company with so little oversight that they send a person who spoke erroneously and incompletely as their “spokesperson”. I’m sure they were allowed more than one take.

21. You're the guy from american pie. A stiffler!

22. im going to this is your garage on Tuesday to do this exact job!

23. Can someone link the coilovers and extra components , the original link is dead.

24. Lol this just shows that making things stiffer is not the way to go, maybe adjusting shocks and getting more sticky tyres, then be done with it.

    In saying that if springs and shocks cost more than a monoshock coilover kit, may as well buy coilovers. Peace

25. it is 3 years now, and this is still my favourite series on this channel

26. What’s with car people and automatically buying coilovers? Most of you don’t even know what they do

27. Is that gerrard piques dad

28. It is a very low difference though, allot of money for not much….
    00.26s is nothing really,
    For the daily inconvenience on bumpy roads….

29. 7:51 WTF IS HE DOING

30. Most other coil overs sold, have the helper spring on the lower portion of the strut. This is on the upper. wont the helper spring get out of alignment and rub against the bump stop and boot cover and possibly bind during a drive? When placed on the lower section , the shock body keeps them aligned.

31. 😆

32. I searched coilvers in youtube but mistyped and ended up with videos of people who really like big goldfish.

33. That suspension guy and James may would get on very well

34. The orignal setup were coilovers…

35. my dad works across the road from this is your garage

36. Alex you are the shortened drop link of the modified world

37. When can we se Garrett at the Nurburgring?

38. Bloody hell, I used to work for Greg years ago.

39. Take 1.5+ sec off if u stay off the stupid curbs.

40. Its like 40 years later the rest of the suspension world is finally catching up with the French with their variable rising rate springs and coil over damper setups.

41. Fantastic intro on dampers and springs. Thanks.

42. I love it when an actual engineer is talking about a product and essentially doing the marketing.

43. Hi, are those end links included in every set of the suspension? I did not find it listed in the description of any suspension and alone as a replacement part neither

44. Did Greg not advise you to wait a day or two for the suspension to settle/ bed a little before having it all set-up?

45. Man, I hate it when they have these company rep people in the videos. You end up falling asleep before the fun bit starts.

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