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2. In CPR classes, they teach you to quickly assign duties to onlookers specifically to get around the Bystander Effect. Point your finger, make eye contact, say things like "YOU, call 911. YOU, get me an AED (either from the place you're at or a nearby business)" etc. It really works, because now there's an element of social pressure for the person to help, and as the first responder you have already 'broken the ice' in starting the helping process.

3. In SWTOR there was a trolley problem in the Republic Commando Quest Line. One of the romanceable characters for male PCs, later in the quest line is trapped in a space station where you are trying to save a group of hostages.
   I had built her into my characters family tree as the mother of one of my other characters, (with my commando as the dad) do I was torn on this one and accepted the dark side points to rescue her. *Since apparently the hostages once released had to be hand held to get to your ship.)

4. To heal the tank or the mage is an easy one, assuming that there are no other healers involved… You heal the tank, because when the tank dies, the mage dies too, unless the mage is especially good at kiting, and the boss is nearly dead anyways, OR, if the tank has very high survivability.

   Then, sometimes, everyone is going to die, and you just decide that "nobody dies today" and somehow pull it off, gaining the admiration of a random group of heroes who sing your praises as you gulp down some water after the fight is over.

5. Imposter Syndrome, combined with Depression and various Neurodivergencies led me to procrastinating my Uni Studies and pretty much failing most of my Classes.
   I never asked for help because I feared people would call me out for how bad I am not just the subject matter but managing my life…

   Last semester I didn't get enough Credit Scores to continue studying.
   I needed to contact my Student Advisors so they could help me get an Extension on those requirements.

   I was expecting a dismissive response, to be criticized for failing this badly. In my mind, University was this hostile System rigged against me…
   What I instead got was Kindness, Understanding, genuine Support! The Advisors were actively helping me get this all worked out.
   Still waiting for the results of that, but I'm already feeling a lot more confident with all the help I got.

   It's way too easy to feel like the whole World is against you. But that's not how it is.
   And if you don't reach out to other People, you'll never know how much kindness there really is.

   You are not alone.

6. I remember going through this in ethics class. I always choose one. Even when they ramped it up to people to me, or a when they said I was headed to my own doom off a cliff. Was called a psychopath at times, but the thought was always about minimizing loss. 1 life painful, but more lives on your conscience would just be unbearable. Once they start saying things like, "All five dudes are Hilter," then the problem starts to lose meaning. We aren't talking about what is the right or wrong choice anymore, but who is good or bad.

7. Pathologic and Pathologic 2 had prenominal examples of the trolley problem. Do you risk your life to save an abandoned baby? What if that baby is sick with the plague? But you're the only doctor around, and you know that baby might not survive. If you die, the town could die. Or not. While you're at it, should you steal from a starving family to give yourself a better chance at survival? People are depending on you, after all.

8. The Walking Dead games are some of my favorites if all time.

9. My favorite trolley problem in gaming comes in InFamous when you’re forced to choose between saving your girlfriend Tish, who’s a nurse, or five doctors. It fits perfectly in the karma system of the game where it’s framed as choosing Tish is the InFamous option and the doctors is the Heroic option. But if you do choose to save Tish? PSYCH!!! The dastardly evil Kessler knew you would do that and so Tish is actually with four other doctors and you just saved a random civilian.

10. Am I a bad person if I solve the trolley problem with logic? I mean the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

11. Did you see the series where they had a variety of AIs play the prisoner's dilemma? I think the only one that won consistently was nice until backcrossed and then never forgave.

12. The best lens through which to look at the trolley problem is through neuroscience since in every other framework there is a baked in assumption that our brain only work one way. We actually have more than one system of thinking, and the result we get from detached analytical thinking about the problem, "ofcourse you kill the one, one is less than five, this is a no brainer" is very different than the default mode network that is active when you are standing there with your hand on the lever questioning if you want to kill someone.

    By default, humans have a reluctance towards killing someone. And the closer and more bloody it is, the stronger it is. So its not really a moral dilemma, its more a question of what frame of mind is the person is, and are they able to overcome their programing or not.

13. You left out a huge element of the Prisoner's Dilemma – repeat games. Most societal contact doesn't happen just once, we acquire reputations for how well we interact with others. The Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma is where active research is ongoing in game theory, and the results are fascinating.

14. Yeah the imposter Syndrome was really hard in my uni time. I thought working with someone else (instead of my usual programming group) would be good for me. But I held that person in really high regards. So when working together it was kinda hard. But later we found out that he actually thought the same about me. Because we didn't want to fail each other we basically prosponed our work for a long time. But when we knew about it from each other we were able to create something "acceptable" in just 2 weeks. We had 20 weeks for it. If we knew earlier our project would've been great.

15. I was told often as a kid that not all calls for help are real. That some people will act like they need help but will either jump the person who helps or have a group hidden to jump them. That has scared me into not sure if to help because being a short woman and would look like an easy target.

16. Puppy!

17. Trolley problem, attempt multi-track drifting or trust their self-preservation to get off the track.
    The prisoner dilemma is a question of trust, can you trust the deal to be true, can you trust the other to not betray you.

18. You always heal the tank, if everyone is playing their role properly the dps should only be taking minimal damage anyway. If the mage died its because they were standing somewhere stupid or the tank isn’t properly maintaining aggro.

19. I feel like a mistake people often make with things like the trolley problem is that they approach them like a problem to be solved, when they actually are ciphers for understanding/testing ethical systems. For instance, the way we ask the question can change its answer for people – if instead of pulling a lever to switch the rails, what if you had to physically push someone in the way of the train to stop it? Would that change your answer, and if so, why? Yeah, it's a contrived situation, but that's on purpose.

20. 12:43 and get arrested if it happens in germany since you have to help someone in a emergency both passive (Calling emergency service) and/or active (First-Aid).

21. I have the feeling that those "dilemma" in 1 und 2 are nothing more than thought exercises, made up to have a nice discussion about morals, but really no practical value. 1) has a simple solution: do nothing. Then you are not responsible. Because to make a decision in impossible. 2) In my country (not the USA) there needs to be proof for someone to go to prison for murder. Only a single person tattling is not enough. So saying nothing is the best way for both.

22. Why didn't you let Eleanor say fork? Fork.

    Why can't I say FORK!?

23. In MMOs the choice is easy – I heal whoever didn't piss me off recently.

24. In reality I think the best answer to the Trolley Problem is to Kobayashi Maru it, when faced with an unwinnable situation instead do your best to alter the situation into something that is winnable.

25. If I am on the train I pull it, if I walking by I dont pull it

26. 7:01: you missed some important details! If A says something and B doesn’t, what happens to B? The problem is only classic PD if B gets between 11 and 19 years, but you didn’t say that part (EDIT: Ah, I see, you say a bit later it’s life. That means that an outsider ranks C,D as worse than D,D, which is nonstandard)

27. Prisoner's dilemma against Climate Change is stupidest fucking thing ever. We HAVE the solution. Nuclear. It's there and it's cheap.

28. I would definitely make a different choice in reality compared to video games.

29. 1. Is there a Multi-Track Drifting option?
    2. I require healing….I need healing…I require healing…
    3. I need healing…but im in a crowd

30. We NEED an extended version of matts trolley song

31. One life lost can save five people

32. I would personally like to see all the Because Games Matter all in one place

33. "Someone ought to do something" has never, in itself, been helpful unless it included the rider "and that someone is me."

34. Classic, knowing nothing but the number of people per track? I hit the one person.

35. Many many husbands that make hard selfless choices to value and take care of their families suffer deeply from imposter syndrome. Tomorrow is Father’s Day. Many many many men will be told tomorrow by kids, wives and others “you’re a great dad!” Many of them will force a smile and say thanks while feeling entirely inadequate for the praise no matter how selfless and wonderful they have done.

    Tomorrow remember to tell dads they are wonderful but also remember to act all the other days like they are valued in-spite of the flaws they see in themselves.

36. I have to disagree with the premise of comparing the prisoners dilemma problem as “the same as” the global climate question. The prisoners dilemma has set the rules and outcomes. If the climate question was equally set and certain facts and outcomes then there would be an honest comparison. If the factors and assertions were absolutely certain and the outcomes of the choices were concrete and known with certainty then the comparison would be apt. They however are at best assumptions and expert calculations. We may mainly agree with the causes and effects of the choices but to assume those are facts is intellectually dishonest and biased by definition.

37. I loathe the trolly problem. It ignores the principal fail safe engineering. It's also a poor understanding of what it is to sacrifice and why you do it. The ONLY solution to the trolley problem is multi track drifting.

    The prisoner's dilemma should seek legal advice before saying/doing anything.

    Also NEVER be a bystander. Do something, even if that means just calling for help to bring in the professionals. Do a first aid course. Because if it was your loved one in need, you'd hope others would do the same.

38. The first question of 5v1 is a numbers game for 2 reasons.
    1. Inaction + fore knowledge = a choice. (Thus it’s not inaction but a choice.)
    2. It assumes you have no knowledge of the individual’s thus you knowledge of them should consider them all valued equally.

    The second variety with the one being your child is a moral question.

    Should parents value their children over stranger. This is entirely NOT an issue. Either you love and value your children or you don’t. To chose to save your child is the write choice in every way. If you have a religious/moral foundation that tells you to value them great. Choose your kid. If you don’t believe in those silly ideals then fine. Easy choice. Choose your kid. Evolution has built a bias into our species for thoughtless a-moral species propagation and this it should be followed as morals don’t matter

39. I heard philosophers hate the trolley problem because it distorts the actual issue and oversimplifies things.

40. Personnally, i think it's a bad idea to interfere with Darwin's work. If you're dumb enough to play on the tracks…

41. the trolly problem is supposed to teach there is no such thing as a "correct" solution sometimes, just different ones

42. Something STRANGE is happening to the bystander effect, due to it being known about these days. Check the newer studies.

43. If you view Nash as optimal, it means you forgot to internalize the externals. Staying quiet is optimal over infinate itterations. Due to punishment feedback stratagies.

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