Why RuneScape Is Not an MMO
[00:00:00] Introduction
[00:01:28] Disclaimers & MMO Credentials
[00:04:14] The Clickbait Thesis Statement
[00:13:54] #0: Who Cares?
[00:19:04] #1: Structure & Class
[00:27:49] #2: Quest Design
[00:43:49] #3: Self-Direction
[00:54:20] #3.5: Dependency Chart Walkthrough
[01:02:21] #3 (cont’d): Self-Direction
[01:15:16] #4: Single Player
[01:29:47] #5: Content Deprecation
[01:41:02] #6: Design Philosophy
[01:48:11] #7: Itemization
[02:05:05] #8: Inventory & Healing
[02:16:27] #9: XP
INTERLUDE
[02:23:10] INTERLUDE: The Joy of Labor
Why RuneScape Is Awesome
[02:34:37] #1: Design Space
[02:54:49] #2: Attention Calibration
[03:16:12] #3: Breakpoints
[03:22:53] Conclusion
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🔗 Links Mentioned in the Video:
Folding Ideas: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoldingIdeas
WoW Classic And What We Left Behind: https://youtu.be/0RxQRswLAmI
GameMaker’s ToolKit: https://www.youtube.com/c/MarkBrownGMT
BossKeys: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLc38fcMFcV_ul4D6OChdWhsNsYY3NA5B2
What Makes Celeste’s Assist Mode Special: https://youtu.be/NInNVEHj_G4
RuneScape Dependency Chart .PNG: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mBiyfqLu3hBbAt05zhr1KB6_FK3EYda6
My RuneScape Quest Cape Series: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe3EhbVG0Fjmm2i_sKxAHWw_uygJbYuVK
My HiScores Stats (Series Spoilers): https://secure.runescape.com/m=hiscore_oldschool/hiscorepersonal.ws?user1=marstead
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🎵 Music Credits
Mass Effect – Vigil: https://youtu.be/hV1pPgpcAVw
Outer Wilds – End Times: https://youtu.be/t5vG4Be1Ci8
Hollow Knight – Dirtmouth: https://youtu.be/MyZylLMiFeY
Chrono Trigger – Schala’s Theme: https://youtu.be/NdYYzjRUKis
Final Fantasy X – People of the North Pole: https://youtu.be/n-3mIbXSf80
Chrono Cross – Life ~ Faraway Promise: https://youtu.be/BsLv0G4fkyw
Undertale – Undertale: https://youtu.be/EBhFHJMVfiI
Old School RuneScape – Sea Shanty 2: https://youtu.be/BJhF0L7pfo8
Old School RuneScape – Harmony: https://youtu.be/ELTyyPwjtiw
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Came for the medieval cookie clicking, stayed for the class warfare
Should've used Ritual of the Mahjarrat for the quest requirement tree. Full breakdown
40:00
Thank you for this video brother. I’ve never played an MMO before but this video has inspired me to give OSRS a try. I’m 10 hours in so far and think I’m going to stick with it.
Big ups 👍🏿
Where’s the section on Ryan Woolley?
Drink any time he says degenerate or any of its derivatives
This was awesome. 2 slayer lvls, 3 runecrafting lvls
"Playing suboptimally and having fun is more efficient than playing optimally and burning out."
8:42 … playing another character… or 4, in runescape >.>
master class breakdown
This video was far too interesting. You’re messing up my rates.
Seems like you got the real first time experience. I'm sure another comment mentions this: jagex allows a 3rd party client called RuneLite. It includes hundreds of plug-ins to give QoL for things like quest way points, ability to highlight monsters and objects being interacted with, and the famous quest helper. Quest helper gives you an overlay of a walk through.
This is legit one of the best discussions of online video game spaces I've ever seen, absolutely masterful work! Subscribed 🙂
back again for my second viewing while mining in another window. 3 more hours here we go baby!
Just plain, old fashioned excellent!
39:37 I like this LOTR edit lol. I also like how it’s in the wilderness 😂
Your point about fast travel is how I experience London. The underground is a magical device that shakes a bunch and then eventually teleports to The next station. And I have no idea how they fit together above ground
Prepping for Plagues End now…still need 3 lvls of woodcutting (all skills needs lvl 75), 5 lvls of agility, 5 lvl of construction and 7 lvls of prayer. That will be done somewhere in the next 2 weeks. I believe I did all the quests needed so I can start doing the quest itself. 😅 The quest itself would be a few hours (5-6) to do and after that….I can enter a new city 😂. Been of and on the last 2 decades and been working towards this goal the last 10 years. This game is huge! and grindy. But I keep coming back to it.
This video inspired me to try out making an OSRS account and coming back to the game after being away from it for 17 years.
I only made it out of a whim to see how long it would take me to get bored of it but surprisingly it hasn't happened yet. Hit level 17 so far and am considering subscribing to get into the rest of the game.
Ugh i wish dota died before escaping wc3
i think the mmo hypixel skyblock is pretty similar to osrs in the ways you've described :]
I loved every minute of this. As someone making their first game (strategy, not MMORPG don't worry!) I learned so much from this.
I played Runescape as a teenager, but haven't touched it in years. I've always wondered why some players adore the game so much.
Thank you for putting this together.
Every new player should watch this before they play. Even being 3 years behind on content, it all still such good information.
Awesome video.
what a great vid. i did like 70% of my pures quests while lsitenin (godbless runelite quest plugin, in the old days these pure quests took me weeks and how theyre done in the span of this vid)
im commenting on my WIFES account cuz too lazy to swithc but what a fantastic vid im gnan show it to her after we watch mario cart speedruns
Calls himself a new player
>99s in half the skills
If that is newbie territory, i havent been born yet
RuneScape is literally an mmo. Stupid rage bait titles. So cringe.
This video was a huge help in getting me 1% of the way to 99 Runecrafting.
Guys I fell asleep how tf did I get here
In Guild Wars 2 you don't need to burn through solo content to get to the end game multiplayer. There's end game relevant multiplayer you can do with your friends just about as soon as you launch the game. And there's solo / early game relevant content (map completion) that stays relevant even once you're raiding etc.
Runescape is shit.
Attention calibration I nod my head in agreement as I am on my 185th kill of Wintertodt (I'll be here for 415 more kills)
This guy hasn't even played WoW or Runescape I've played them both for 20+ years now you don't even understand without guides there's tons of quest chains in just vanilla WoW that take you on treks across the globe and refer you to npc's you haven't dealt with or heard of in 5 zones and 45 lvls
brother ive been playing runescape since I was 10 (now 28) and the first 10 mins I agree with every single word
watched and trained range the entire video, This video is a masterpiece. Thanks for the time you invested to put this together 🙂
I watched all of this, with full attention and no Runescape in the background because I haven't renewed my subscription yet.
This is a great video that shows love to the game. Jagex often gets yelled at by some players, but in the end we should be really happy with what they accomplished with this 'fork' of runescape
I don't know why, but lately my YouTube feed was full of OSRS content. This one was my endpoint, and I must say this one hits different. I came for the title and ended changing my mindset I guess? Great video, great great work with the deconstruction of the game!
I like that there is no music in this video so i can keep runescapes music going while watching this.
Played runescape since i was 13 years old. Im 33, i still play oldschool runescape. I also played wow since i was 18 and still do lmao. I play wow more then osrs
The labor rant was sick. We have nothing to lose but our chains~~~
Fantastic video
jesus im watching this video 3 years later and its spot on and the fact you said you started in 2019, (i started in like 2008 maybe even a little before that) its exactly like the way you explained it loollll. its a game thats very afk but eventually when you start doing all the quest and level up ur skills ur able to play the game a whole complete different way. Im back on runescape (because you never quit, you just take long breaks) and since rs3 made my main move their, i made another osrs account and i am digging doing this all over again. RS3 is what most call EASY SCAPE, osrs is the orginal and always will be. COD sucks and this is finally a game where the cheaters are just people who are "Botting" but eventually if ur botting unless youre perfect at making a script, youll get banned.
Watched the whole video and got a quarter of a fishing level, 10 out of 10 would watch again
Been getting to many videos on my algorithm ima just get the game hoping it stops appearing
34:15 ………me starring at the quest helper on runelite telling ne to combine things together for a quest
99% of people who listened/watched this video were playing runescape at the same time.
Great video, i've learned so much about ways of expressing the appeal of this game to others and why it always sucks me back in after 15+ years. Every game no matter how modern or great it feels to play always ends with a boring gameplay loop at some point, runescape being no exception. Its the fact that runescape is essentially 23 different games and can be switched between faster than turning of a console game and inserting a new game that helps keep you hooked. Its the fact that at certain points as you said thresholds are met that change the experience of the game as you play it making it refreshing as you play. it the fact that no matter how many god damn hours i seem to put into it that I always have a goal each day i log in that i personally set based on what i feel like doing.
TLDR – WOW is degenerate
Sick vid bro u got a new subscriber
1:38:22 Bit late to the party but i'd argue that Path of Exile as it stands now should be firmly in Relevant Rewards section of Y Axis. Each type of old league content provides some sort of unique reward that can and is useful to at least portion of players. If it's not useful to you personally – you can trade it away, if you play in SSF way more of stuff you'd ignore in Trade League enviroment becomes incredibly useful as a means to achieving progression goals since you can't skip progression by trading.
The thing is that the term MMO existed for everquest and runescape and a few others before any of the rest even existed. So if anything they should be the ones to get renamed.